Wazronk , 10 May UTC It appears that it might be appropriate to change the topic heading from The Urantia book to simply "Urantia" with the Urantia book as a sub heading. I only suggest this as the book has evolved into a rather large developing movement which has in excess of 25 titles having to do with Urantia and hundreds of study groups and Internet websites which have nothing to do with the Urantia foundation as well as translations in excess of 10 languages by authors other than Urantia foundation. User:Majeston 13 May It would seem to be necessary for documentation of the 25 or so titles as offspring of The Urantia Book, and then would need to be noteworthy for inclusion in an encyclopedia. Is the suggestion for change of The Urantia Book title warranted on those criteria? Richiar , 16 May UTC 1. Moyer Paperback - Feb 16, 5.
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Wazronk , 10 May UTC It appears that it might be appropriate to change the topic heading from The Urantia book to simply "Urantia" with the Urantia book as a sub heading. I only suggest this as the book has evolved into a rather large developing movement which has in excess of 25 titles having to do with Urantia and hundreds of study groups and Internet websites which have nothing to do with the Urantia foundation as well as translations in excess of 10 languages by authors other than Urantia foundation.
User:Majeston 13 May It would seem to be necessary for documentation of the 25 or so titles as offspring of The Urantia Book, and then would need to be noteworthy for inclusion in an encyclopedia.
Is the suggestion for change of The Urantia Book title warranted on those criteria? Richiar , 16 May UTC 1. Moyer Paperback - Feb 16, 5. Snoek Paperback - Jul 5, 7. Source Authors of the Urantia Book by J.
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Bartolomeo Simon Said- By: Kenneth Becnel Even the vanishing red man had such a prophet within the past hundred years, the Shawnee Tenskwatawa, who predicted the eclipse of the sun in and denounced the vices of the white man. The eclipse actually was predicted in late April of and occurred on June 16, This is true, there were 3 solar eclipses in But unfortunately, these edits are not made with a full understanding of solar eclipses, or with the well-documented historical record of this event.
The three eclipses of were extremely remote and were not visible to Tenskwatawa or his followers: May 25 -- Antarctica, south of Africa Oct 19 -- Antarctica, south of Australia Nov 18 -- Northern Russia Also, the prediction by Tenskwatawa according to historic references was for a total eclipse.
There are 3 different types of eclipse -- partial, annular, and total -- and only two total eclipses during the lifetime of Tenskwatawa that were viewable in North America. The first was on June 16, This is perhaps best represented visually with a graphic of the paths of occlusion for total and annular eclipses during that time period according to NASA The other one was in , two years prior to his death The three solar eclipses that occured in were not only extremely remote, they were underwhelming partial eclipses.
All scientific evidence, all calculations, all historical records point to the Tenskwatawa prediction eclipse as the total eclipse having occured on June 16, See the book The Life of Tecumseh and of His Brother the Prophet for historical documentation of as the year because its copyright has expired, it can be obtained for free from books. Editors will have to provide published scientific and historical evidence to support any theorized doubts about as the correct date of the eclipse that Tenskwatawa is associated with.
GIF The quotation in the Ub does not say anything about a "total" eclipse. The material now contained in Wikipedia regarding an error in the Ubook is mis-leading at best. I said that "the prediction by Tenskwatawa according to historic references was for a total eclipse". This event was in relatively recent times compared to the history of human civilization as a whole and is well-documented, see here for a write up available online: "At around noon on the appointed day, June 16th , a total solar eclipse crossed the region.
The Prophet waved his arms towards the eclipse at the appropriate time, and the people were truly impressed. What is misleading is that you suggest an annular eclipse that took place in Florida 62 years after Tenskwatawa was dead and gone has anything to do with this.
You are off by a century in your list of eclipses. I think the dots under "Comparison to Christianity" are hard on the eyes, and would propose a wikitable instead. I am constructing one to show what I mean, and comments would be welcome here. It would be good to hear multiple comments. Wazronk , 20 May UTC It was pointed out to me by another editor that the "chalkboard" was an inappropriate use of the namespace. So, that has been activated.
The idea is to be able to place and arrange content so the article can be trimmed and developed without disturbing the entire ecosystem, if you know what I mean. More on that below. It seemed like an appropriate link to me, and seemed to contribute to this article. Never mind. I did move it to a lower position the other day, and have done so in the past.
The only person who has maintained the link in the article over time is Actually the only contributions to wikipedia by this IP has been to propagate the link. I see now that The first two have historical roots back to the beginning of the movement in the s and the third is the fraternal organization closely backed and supported by Urantia Foundation for going on 20 years.
I agree with having links to the websites of these three organizations, and to me it makes sense that they are the first three links under the "External links" section of the article. The reason I moved the placement of the Urantia Readers-International link to a lower position the other day is that it had been placed before the Urantia Book Fellowship and Urantia Association International, but from what I can see these two organizations are more prominent and should be listed first.
I have now removed the link altogether, pending evidence that it is being placed in the article for more than advertising purposes. The person It seems likely to me that there could even be a conflict-in-interest and this person is in some way associated with Urantia Readers-International. This includes both commercial and non-commercial sites.
You should avoid linking to a website that you own, maintain or represent, even if the guidelines otherwise imply that it should be linked. If the link is to a relevant and informative site that should otherwise be included, please consider mentioning it on the talk page and let neutral and independent Wikipedia editors decide whether to add it.
Under "Links to normally be avoided", see numbers 1, 3, and 13 in particular. As I wrote in the "Removal of link" comment above, I understand the notability of three other organizations from third-party published sources. The pattern of edits on this even is suggestive that it is for advertising purposes, which is a no-no. The commentary showed that the link to Urantia Readers-Intl was being added to the External Links section by a representative of the organization.
By consensus of other editors, it was removed from the article. Wikipedia can be so funny sometimes. All organized religions and groups that exclude others are cults.
To argue over spiritual data is sillious I do not believe it has anything to do with the wikipedia entry for Ashtar. Of course all 3 have something to do with Urantia and further illustrates that the heading should be changed to Urantia with the Urantia Book as a subheading which was the cause of this explosion in cultural phenomenon.
The memes of the Urantia book have and are permeating every part of society on earth, the coming years will only exponentially increase. You can certainly expect more from a fifth epochal revelation, but nothing less. It seems that to eliminate the Urantia Book article heading, would be similar to placing the Elvis Presley article as a subsection of the Elvis Presley phenomena.
The suggestion has been made by Majeston that the article "Urantia Book" be renamed "Urantia" because there is a Urantia movement. I am trying to visualize this in an encyclopedic manner and see how to relate those two. Maybe if there was more elaboration on those thoughts, I could get a better idea of what is meant.
Any movement based on the book would be a new subject, and if it meets our inclusion criteria would make a fine new article. The book stands alone, and any movement would be an independent entity from the book itself. And, anyhow, the word "Urantia" is actually a very simple word to explain and a topic with this title would be a narrow and short one: "The Urantia Book defines the word Urantia as the name of the planet Earth.
I agree with whoever it was HighinBC? The Urantia Book is about a personal relationship with God, not about having readers form institutionalized or formalized religions or "movements" - it is very clear about that. So, on these points I would discourage adding anything to "adherents" section unless of course it is backed by reliable documentation.
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